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it could be a feather in obama's cap. he's already going to be like eisenhower, going to have to downsize our military some, perhaps shrink -- we might have to pull our bases out of germany, for example. air bases at some point to save money. he needs to do some big things. >> let me throw this out on the table. we talked about reagan, a guy known as a warmonger. >> in some quarters. >> his critics called him a warmonger. gerald ford i remember in 1976 had a commercial that said, i'm dating myself, governor reagan won't get us into war. president reagan could. >> yeah. >> and then you have ike, who everybody thought was going to be this strapping general who's threatening nuclear hollow cast and those two presidents, those 60 years were probably free of more military incidents than any other 16 years in the 20th century. >> when eisenhower was campaigning for republicans in the 1962 mid terms after he was out of office he went around saying look, when i was president there were no walls built. the berlin wall had gone up.
it could be a feather in obama's cap. he's already going to be like eisenhower, going to have to downsize our military some, perhaps shrink -- we might have to pull our bases out of germany, for example. air bases at some point to save money. he needs to do some big things. >> let me throw this out on the table. we talked about reagan, a guy known as a warmonger. >> in some quarters. >> his critics called him a warmonger. gerald ford i remember in 1976 had a commercial that...
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obama had to clean the clock of the republicans on the hispanic vote. this was a hispanic vote that during the democratic primaries in 2008, obama was struggling. hillary was the candid. four years later we don't even, that seems like a ridiculous premise, but that was a real premise in 2008. i think the 71, that's what -- big deals happen in washington when there's benefit on both sides. and republicans, the leadership knows it. it's going to happen. >> it's such a contrast with what's happening with the budget agreement. >> but they don't see an upside to raising taxes for them. and they're right, on the politics, they're right. >> they don't need to. >> they're right on the politics and so you get into sequester. >> i know. >> what's going on at the moment -- >> government workers getting laid off, do you think there's unpopular? >> if you're eric cantor, it might be. you're trying to get the other side to take the blame for the sequester. and i think when you get into the actual laying off of people all over the country, not just in virginia, i thin
obama had to clean the clock of the republicans on the hispanic vote. this was a hispanic vote that during the democratic primaries in 2008, obama was struggling. hillary was the candid. four years later we don't even, that seems like a ridiculous premise, but that was a real premise in 2008. i think the 71, that's what -- big deals happen in washington when there's benefit on both sides. and republicans, the leadership knows it. it's going to happen. >> it's such a contrast with what's...
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republicans will hold a repeal vote for the obama care plan today. there is going to continue to be all these implementation markers throughout the next year and there's been problems in implementing the law. so if republicans can season this and say, listen, health care implementation has been a debacle because the federal government is too big because that is the theology of obama, and democrats, that could hurt democrats in 2014. i think that's where republicans are going to try to keep the focus. in doing that, you guys have been talking on the show, they have to resist this urge to say nutty things. in the past when republicans get into this situation, everyone wants to out do themselves or out do their fellow republicans and they say nuttier and nuttier things and it turns what could be a political winner into a political loser because people start to feel sorry for the president or the democrats are going after him. >> and prominent conservatives, jim, have come out and said things like that. charles krauthammer said let's drop the watergate n
republicans will hold a repeal vote for the obama care plan today. there is going to continue to be all these implementation markers throughout the next year and there's been problems in implementing the law. so if republicans can season this and say, listen, health care implementation has been a debacle because the federal government is too big because that is the theology of obama, and democrats, that could hurt democrats in 2014. i think that's where republicans are going to try to keep the...
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obama until a few days ago, he was in the tank as much as republicans. that changed in the last few days. >> it has in a series of polls. there was a poll that now appears to be an outliar from every other poll. they are digging in. >> with ted cruz, then we will go to ezra. sarah palin and ted cruz joined demonstrators at the world war ii memorial protest over the shut down and obama care. take a look. >> we are here to honor our vets. you look around though and you see the bear karricades and you to ask yourself and say is this how a commander in chief would show his respect and gratitude to our military? >> why is the federal government spending money to erect barricades to keep veterans out of this memorial? there 14 bills sitting on harry reid's desk to fund vital government functions. to fund the va. the senate won't even vote to fund the va. >> what are we missing here? your analysis of that? i'm going to stay out of it. go ahead. >> i don't think you are missing a lot on the politics. it was fascinating. that rally, he has been one of the best su
obama until a few days ago, he was in the tank as much as republicans. that changed in the last few days. >> it has in a series of polls. there was a poll that now appears to be an outliar from every other poll. they are digging in. >> with ted cruz, then we will go to ezra. sarah palin and ted cruz joined demonstrators at the world war ii memorial protest over the shut down and obama care. take a look. >> we are here to honor our vets. you look around though and you see the...
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stumbling on obama care. no. we're just talking about the president's standing. i want seems to me you do cross the rubicon at some point. these numbers are devastating. i don't see how he turns it around easily. >> there's a big difference between having your job approval rating fall and then having your honesty, credibility, trustworthiness ratings fall because those are the factors that keep the public with you even if they disagree on policy, they let you get your job approval back up. when those factors start to fall it's hard to bring them back up, hard to bring your job approval back up. the worrying thing for the white house is what do you do? is there a policy that you can start implementing? immigration is not going anywhere. where do you turn? >> iran. >> iran. but if iran is your big success or what you're really holding out for then you're at a weird place. >> can i ask you a question and be careful how you answer it. it's not a leading question. i don't want to put you in a difficult position. a
stumbling on obama care. no. we're just talking about the president's standing. i want seems to me you do cross the rubicon at some point. these numbers are devastating. i don't see how he turns it around easily. >> there's a big difference between having your job approval rating fall and then having your honesty, credibility, trustworthiness ratings fall because those are the factors that keep the public with you even if they disagree on policy, they let you get your job approval back...
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here's part of what president obama said yesterday. take a look. >> we still do not know who did this or why. and people shouldn't jump to conclusions before we have all the facts. but make no mistake, we will get to the bottom of this. and we will find out who did this. we'll find out why they did this. any response -- any responsible individuals, any responsible groups. will feel the full weight of justice. >> and then secretary ridge, a white house official later said, quote, this, in the event with multiple explosive devices as this appears to be is clearly an act of terror and will be approached as an act of terror, however, we don't yet know who carried out this attack and a thorough investigation will have to determine whether it was planned and carried out by a terrorist group foreign or domestic. >> and governor ridge, when you hear the president of the united states talking about we will find the perpetrators, we will bring them to justice. even though he's not from your party. and he was critical of your administration, you'
here's part of what president obama said yesterday. take a look. >> we still do not know who did this or why. and people shouldn't jump to conclusions before we have all the facts. but make no mistake, we will get to the bottom of this. and we will find out who did this. we'll find out why they did this. any response -- any responsible individuals, any responsible groups. will feel the full weight of justice. >> and then secretary ridge, a white house official later said, quote,...
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the secret republican plan to repeal obama care. republicans are doing their best to highlight and stoke the kind of constituent anger that would force democrats to tweak the law. in fact, if democrats come under enough pressure, republicans believe they might be able to inject obama care into the broader entitlement reform discussion they are planning to tie to the debt limit debate this summer but that is a long shot if republicans hope to completely repeal the health care law they have to start by taking back the senate in 2014 and would likely need to win the white house two years later. still some republicans think the politics are on that i recall side. dan, how many times can you go after obama care before republicans realize move on. it's being implemented next year. why keep going at it? >> i think you're going to see a two-front strategy. they will back away from saying i'm for appeal and still constituencies in their party who are for that. what is smarter political strategy is pulling out individual pieces of the law and
the secret republican plan to repeal obama care. republicans are doing their best to highlight and stoke the kind of constituent anger that would force democrats to tweak the law. in fact, if democrats come under enough pressure, republicans believe they might be able to inject obama care into the broader entitlement reform discussion they are planning to tie to the debt limit debate this summer but that is a long shot if republicans hope to completely repeal the health care law they have to...
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anymore, he's president obama. we shouldn't be surprised there aren't 200,000 people in the streets for him. >> melody, were you there in 2008? >> i wasn't over there. actually, i was in berlin a few weeks ago, which is interesting. >> providing solutions all over the globe. >> every poll significanciticpo president always feels feels gravity's pull. there's so many people in the obama campaign, they get reelected, and you think yes -- everybody thinks this. they get reelected to the presidency, everything we did the first four years, vindicated, and then hell breaks loose. this happens to every president. >> right. the second term is always challenging. you went through the list, republican, democrat, it's always challenging, but when you add on p top of that the fact we've got an economy that's recovering, albeit slowly but recovering, and then you've got the challenges around the world, you can understand why all of a sudden people are out of the fantasy and dealing with the stark reality of what's going on. >>
anymore, he's president obama. we shouldn't be surprised there aren't 200,000 people in the streets for him. >> melody, were you there in 2008? >> i wasn't over there. actually, i was in berlin a few weeks ago, which is interesting. >> providing solutions all over the globe. >> every poll significanciticpo president always feels feels gravity's pull. there's so many people in the obama campaign, they get reelected, and you think yes -- everybody thinks this. they get...
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barack obama. barack obama -- >> he wanted tax rates to go up less? >> barack obama was fearful that the bush tax cuts were going to end. talk to anybody in the white house. that was their worst-case scenario because they knew that meant a double-dip recession that wouldn't fall on the $11 trillion man's shoulders but would instead fall on barack obama's shoulders. they had so much leverage, so much leverage. and mika, they squandered it. they squandered it. >> does anybody here believe that house republicans had a lot of leverage in this environment? they do not have leverage. >> richard. >> are you hearing me? >> before last night, yes, by allowing it to get to where it got, they got overmaneuvered. it never should have gotten to this point. >> i'm going to go to sam stein. the main sticking point for many republicans was the lack of spending cuts. that is kind of a problem. before final passage, many house republicans voiced their concerns. take a listen. >> there's no spending cuts. we're adding $4 billion a day to the debt. the senate bill failed
barack obama. barack obama -- >> he wanted tax rates to go up less? >> barack obama was fearful that the bush tax cuts were going to end. talk to anybody in the white house. that was their worst-case scenario because they knew that meant a double-dip recession that wouldn't fall on the $11 trillion man's shoulders but would instead fall on barack obama's shoulders. they had so much leverage, so much leverage. and mika, they squandered it. they squandered it. >> does anybody...
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and i respect that. >> and president obama is the drone president, basically. he's using it -- the technology way more than george bush did. but there are legal issues. there are international law issues. why wouldn't a foreign power use drones over here to someone that, you know, that their court says is a terrorist who's operating in the united states? what prevents, you know, an enemy from using drones? >> sovereign nations, governments around the world have very established first-world intelligence-gathering capacity. they use it against us. they use it against our allies. and if this is the new world, they'll be using these. >> yes. >> it won't just be wiretapping embassies. they'll be using those. >> or hacking computers. >> and they'll be looking for dan senor, too. >> let's talk about the down side of drones. it also allows us to go as a country into nations, sovereign nations, where we haven't declared war. >> yes. >> drop bombs on people that we consider to be the bad guys. but also kill a lot of civilians. >> and that's what's happened in pakistan. >
and i respect that. >> and president obama is the drone president, basically. he's using it -- the technology way more than george bush did. but there are legal issues. there are international law issues. why wouldn't a foreign power use drones over here to someone that, you know, that their court says is a terrorist who's operating in the united states? what prevents, you know, an enemy from using drones? >> sovereign nations, governments around the world have very established...
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president obama is going to be setting policy. what chuck hagel is going to be doing is cutting the budget in the filigree and pentagon and t extent, i think, managing this o sort of shift in focus president obama has talked about toward the asia pacific region where trouble is a-brewing and we better pay attention to it. i think those two tasks are what chuck hagel is going to be asked to do. those are the questions and answers i will be paying particular attention to. >> joining me is chief white house correspondent and political director and host of "t "the daily rundown," chuck todd. you heard dan senor, who vehemently has pretty strong opinions about chuck hagel. i don't know about this opposition. it seems very singular and extreme. i haven't read or played john cornyn in a while. it seems like we have to go back to the same old well to find the opposition. am i wrong or is there growing opposition? >> i think you're right it is singular. i want to pick up on a point dan was making and noting, asking, i don't know if it was
president obama is going to be setting policy. what chuck hagel is going to be doing is cutting the budget in the filigree and pentagon and t extent, i think, managing this o sort of shift in focus president obama has talked about toward the asia pacific region where trouble is a-brewing and we better pay attention to it. i think those two tasks are what chuck hagel is going to be asked to do. those are the questions and answers i will be paying particular attention to. >> joining me is...
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obama, president obama was senator obama at the time and on a bipartisan basis, congress did this. i'm not saying this is perfect. let me be very clear. i think we ought to have a public debate on this. we need to move faster to close gitmo, which is a recruiting device for the next generation of terroristsened we need a much tighter framework, one that has american buy in and one that we can explain to the world around our counterterror policies. >> so, what does it say? i'm wondering, willie geist, what does it say about our government that everything we've done on the internet could be scooped up by the federal government for the past six, seven years. that after this has going on without us knowing about it for six, seven years, that thousand, let's have a debate about it. >> well, they want to debate about it because now, it's out in the public. there wouldn't have been if we hadn't of learned about it from "the washington post" and the guardian and others. it sounds to me that listening to jane, that we are to accept the fact that the government is swrus going to watch everyt
obama, president obama was senator obama at the time and on a bipartisan basis, congress did this. i'm not saying this is perfect. let me be very clear. i think we ought to have a public debate on this. we need to move faster to close gitmo, which is a recruiting device for the next generation of terroristsened we need a much tighter framework, one that has american buy in and one that we can explain to the world around our counterterror policies. >> so, what does it say? i'm wondering,...
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president obama lays out his thoughts on the justification for striking syria. while house speaker john boehner and more than 100 members of congress call for congress to have a bigger say in this decision. meanwhile, prime minister cameron and the uk parliament will convene to debate their role in this crisis. that debate could have an echo effect here at home. in the middle a debate over military action, three generations of presidents led thousands in commemorating the anniversary of martin luther king's dream. good morning, it's thursday, august 29, 2013. i'm chuck todd. my first reads of the morning. we begin is syria and that drumbeat apparently for war is a bit slower today. according to the administration, a strike could come as early as today. the president says he hasn't made a final decision and more than 100 lawmakers from both parties say if he opts for an attack, he should get congressional approval first. with that in mind, the white house will hold a conference call today with the
president obama lays out his thoughts on the justification for striking syria. while house speaker john boehner and more than 100 members of congress call for congress to have a bigger say in this decision. meanwhile, prime minister cameron and the uk parliament will convene to debate their role in this crisis. that debate could have an echo effect here at home. in the middle a debate over military action, three generations of presidents led thousands in commemorating the anniversary of martin...
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he thinks barack obama is week because he doesn't think barack obama wants to get engaged in international affairs. he thinks he can get away with anything he wants to get away with. iranians are watching what happens now. that's my belief. i know a million obama supporters for america will disagree with me. but i think barack obama after saying assad must go and after drawing red lines in the sand send s a really, really bad message, not only to the syrian s who really can't do damage in the long run, but to the iranians. their client state who really can do big trouble. katty kay, the shocking news from capitol hill yesterday, senator john mccain in the middle of the hearing lost while playing iphone poker. he even tweeted about it. >> he did. he said, big deal about being caught playing poker. actually the worst of it was that he lost. here 's the tweet. scandal, caught playing iphone game at three-plus-hour senate hearing. worst of all, i lost. maybe if the hearing had been longer he could have practiced more and might have won. who knows? three and a half hours for a hearing isn't eno
he thinks barack obama is week because he doesn't think barack obama wants to get engaged in international affairs. he thinks he can get away with anything he wants to get away with. iranians are watching what happens now. that's my belief. i know a million obama supporters for america will disagree with me. but i think barack obama after saying assad must go and after drawing red lines in the sand send s a really, really bad message, not only to the syrian s who really can't do damage in the...
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president obama's initiative to reduce violence in america has been severely weakened. harry reid has announced the most controversial and ambitious part of the president's proposal a ban on assault weapons will not make the final cut when he brings the bill up for debate. >> but, right now, her amendment using the most optimistic numbers has less than 40 votes. that's not 60. i have to get something on the floor so we can have votes on that issue and the other issues i talked about and what i'm going to try to do. i'm not going to try to put something on the floor that won't succeed. i want something that will succeed. >> senator dianne feinstein who sponsored the ban was clearly irritated. the california democrat told reporters, obviously, i'm disappointed. i tried my best but my best i guess was not good enough. you'd think congress would listen but they clearly listened to the national rifle association and they do. the ban would have outlawed it nearly 160 semiautomatic weapons and limited the size of magazines to ten rounds. and in today's "daily news" a removal o
president obama's initiative to reduce violence in america has been severely weakened. harry reid has announced the most controversial and ambitious part of the president's proposal a ban on assault weapons will not make the final cut when he brings the bill up for debate. >> but, right now, her amendment using the most optimistic numbers has less than 40 votes. that's not 60. i have to get something on the floor so we can have votes on that issue and the other issues i talked about and...
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>> we have a piece of what he calls a quickly aging obama presidency. when he was on the campaign trail in 2012, this partisan fever would break, but while he was saying that, behind the scenes there was a discussion that the partisan fever had no chance of breaking, that they knew they would inherit a washington that was almost ungovernable, so the bulk of the time was put into how do you recalibrate the staff and move people around in the cabinet, and there wasn't a tremendous amount of thought of how do you actually have a successful first year of a second term? which you see now, he's not had a successful start to a second term. there's no solution out there. >> that's because gibbs is gone. >> and in the piece they're saying that, he calls it the robert gibbs factor. >> if only i was there. >> it was blind quote. >> exactly. you talk there, jim, about the curse of answered prayers, the curse of second terms. this has been a miserable time for the president, just not being able to get anything through congress. >> i'm curious from robert. what did t
>> we have a piece of what he calls a quickly aging obama presidency. when he was on the campaign trail in 2012, this partisan fever would break, but while he was saying that, behind the scenes there was a discussion that the partisan fever had no chance of breaking, that they knew they would inherit a washington that was almost ungovernable, so the bulk of the time was put into how do you recalibrate the staff and move people around in the cabinet, and there wasn't a tremendous amount of...
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this week, president obama's national economy tour resumes. as investors on wall street wait for july's jobs report, which will be released this friday. tomorrow, the president will speak in tennessee, where, according to white house officials, he'll discuss his proposals to jump start private sector growth and create new jobs. however, any progress on the economic front could be derailed by the threat of another government shutdown over raising the debt ceiling. treasury secretary jack lew joined "meet the press" yesterday to call on congress to get the deal done. >> the fight over the debt limit in 2011 hurt the economy oeven though in the end we saw it go. congress needs to do its job. it needs to pass a debt limit. they cannot fix the problems created by the across the board cuts known as sequestration by cutting domestic priorities in order to fund defense. that's unacceptable. he won't sign that. >> congress has till september 30th to strike a new agreement to fund the government and avoid a potential shutdown. steve ratner gamed this ou
this week, president obama's national economy tour resumes. as investors on wall street wait for july's jobs report, which will be released this friday. tomorrow, the president will speak in tennessee, where, according to white house officials, he'll discuss his proposals to jump start private sector growth and create new jobs. however, any progress on the economic front could be derailed by the threat of another government shutdown over raising the debt ceiling. treasury secretary jack lew...
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. >> what is it -- >> why haven't the senators -- >> what is it that the obama administration is doing that is so stunning? can you tell us exactly what they're saying? >> i just told you. i just told you what it is, mika. we reported on it. it's that the american -- that the nsa is collecting the telephone records of every single human being in the united states without any reguard to whether they engage in wrongdoing. tapping into their on-line chats, on-line calls, on-line interactions of every sort and the problem is those senators are constrained by law from doing or saying anything about it. you can say all you want. oh, the white house has gone to congress and briefed them on it, but when you impose restraints on what they can do about it, even their ability to warn the american public about it, that kind of consoletation is impotent, meaningless, even those senators couldn't tell us what they wanted to know. it took a brave whistleblower to come forward and it tell us. >> the president said on friday i welcome a debate with those who disagree with me about these programs. you c
. >> what is it -- >> why haven't the senators -- >> what is it that the obama administration is doing that is so stunning? can you tell us exactly what they're saying? >> i just told you. i just told you what it is, mika. we reported on it. it's that the american -- that the nsa is collecting the telephone records of every single human being in the united states without any reguard to whether they engage in wrongdoing. tapping into their on-line chats, on-line calls,...
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barack obama is much closer to dick cheney and george w. bush than he ever could have imagined but i don't know if boston or other attacks have moved americans that much closer together on what daniel henninger is talking about. >> i think at times like this, the people tend to go much heavier on national security. you need some check on executive branch power. we want to have justice and make sure we are safe ago a nation but part of what makes us great and understanding that lots of warrantless wiretaps are not a great idea. >> our greatness is being tested. you can donate by visiting one-fundboston.org or call 855-617-3863. >> ken, we loved having you on. >> ken, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> thanks for bringing this constantly. when we have one of these funds, you guys always try to educate and explain to people what it's all about and i think it's a public service. thank you so much. >> thank you. an honor. >> rick stengel will be here along with "time" magazine's 100 most influential people. bassem youssef. this coming monday, w
barack obama is much closer to dick cheney and george w. bush than he ever could have imagined but i don't know if boston or other attacks have moved americans that much closer together on what daniel henninger is talking about. >> i think at times like this, the people tend to go much heavier on national security. you need some check on executive branch power. we want to have justice and make sure we are safe ago a nation but part of what makes us great and understanding that lots of...
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i'm just saying it is exactly what barack obama did but barack obama didn't offend everybody and basically say he was better than everybody at least when he was in the united states senate. he thought it and they found that out after he left, but he didn't say i'm better than you to their face or go on the floor. but i'm always said, just to be very clear, i've always told people that followed me in congress, they said give me the advice and ask -- i said, listen. it's fairly clear when you go in, there are two doors and only two doors. there's the insider door and there is the outsider door. and when you go in, you can decide to be part of the establishment, you can decide to be part of the leadership, you can decide to be the ones that go to the all of the fund-raisers that raise all of the money and do the dirty work for the leaders. if you go in there, you got to go in there 100% or you're an outsider and ted cruz has done. you're an outsider. dick army, when i was in congress, he didn't like me. john boehner didn't like me. newt gingrich. the leadership didn't like me because i decide
i'm just saying it is exactly what barack obama did but barack obama didn't offend everybody and basically say he was better than everybody at least when he was in the united states senate. he thought it and they found that out after he left, but he didn't say i'm better than you to their face or go on the floor. but i'm always said, just to be very clear, i've always told people that followed me in congress, they said give me the advice and ask -- i said, listen. it's fairly clear when you go...
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and obama it is to take my guns away from me. i know that is the end point, he wants to take my guns away from me and i resent you switching positions. >> well, that's -- i'll get a lot of that. look. some people would say where have you been? other tragedies have happened over time and i've been criticized for being -- you know, for having a change of heart maybe too late for some people. and i have to accept that criticism and live with it. but here is what i think most people look at. this isn't a question of taking guns or confiscation. none of these measures would have the impact of in any way taking away someone's right to bear arms to protect themselves, to hunt, or to do anything really. i think most people get that. but when you have a tradition and sometimes when you have a language that is used by democrats, it can lead people to believe this is a first step. i don't think it is and i think those of us who have the position we do would fight very hard to make sure that it doesn't go in that direction but i think it's t
and obama it is to take my guns away from me. i know that is the end point, he wants to take my guns away from me and i resent you switching positions. >> well, that's -- i'll get a lot of that. look. some people would say where have you been? other tragedies have happened over time and i've been criticized for being -- you know, for having a change of heart maybe too late for some people. and i have to accept that criticism and live with it. but here is what i think most people look at....
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obama won. now can he lead? does he have the guts to anger liberal backers with a budget deal on social security and medicare? is he willing to engage sincerely with republicans? does he want a legacy beyond winning two elections and enacting a health care law that judging by it's horrendous launch may never live up to its promise. if the answer to those questions is yes obama has hidden his intentions well. for the sake of argument, jim, take i want away. >> what's changed after the shutdown? ultimately same players in washington. it's not like there are that many republicans that are chastened by what happened. they feel obama care is a disaster. they want to stop it any way they can. president obama is madder, less patient. so the circumstances -- look obama has always done best when he's defining himself against somebody. i'm not john mccain. i'm not mitt romney. at this moment he's not campaigning against anything else. he has to win people over to his side. you look back on stimulus, obama care, obama has
obama won. now can he lead? does he have the guts to anger liberal backers with a budget deal on social security and medicare? is he willing to engage sincerely with republicans? does he want a legacy beyond winning two elections and enacting a health care law that judging by it's horrendous launch may never live up to its promise. if the answer to those questions is yes obama has hidden his intentions well. for the sake of argument, jim, take i want away. >> what's changed after the...
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make it about obama. what happened in 2012 is there was a void of inseparation and an attempt to lead and it wasn't because the party was too conservative. there was no conservative leadership at all. >> i disagree with that. it's ironic. >> the white house, i don't know what the white house can do and how do they negotiate with the party that can't negotiate with itself. they push to get the wish list. reports emerged that the house republican caucus may not be able to pass their grab bag of policies as a debt ceiling bill. if that's the case, what is anyone to do to wait for the drama to unfold. we only have three days. they treated that reagan effectively became a democrat. >> i forgot. thank you for adding in that footnote. the republican hero. >> it's amazing because the president is looking especially on obama care. even look at his features. october 1st marks a big day for the white house and that's the official start to obama care. the president spent the day defending legislation against the crit
make it about obama. what happened in 2012 is there was a void of inseparation and an attempt to lead and it wasn't because the party was too conservative. there was no conservative leadership at all. >> i disagree with that. it's ironic. >> the white house, i don't know what the white house can do and how do they negotiate with the party that can't negotiate with itself. they push to get the wish list. reports emerged that the house republican caucus may not be able to pass their...
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it was fascinating what you said about president obama. i wonder if you could talk about the country just for a second and this sort of polarization. you know, a pet theory of mine is that what we're seeing as a result of some of the anxieties that people are feeling about economic and social dislocations that are taking place in the country, these big forces that are beyond our control, is do you buy into a theory kind of like that? i'm sure you have kind of a krauthammer take on the larger trajectory of this country. so what is it? >> gene and i are the yin and yang of the op-ed page of "the washington post." if you want yin, you read me, if you want yang, you read the next day. a great question. i do think the reason we are polarized, the reason whef this ideological division is because -- and i write about this in the book talking act the new constitutionalism of the right. we are in a crisis of the welfare state. it was constructed half a century ago. and the demographics and the technology of our age are completely different. and the
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burke and payne, obama, obama care. is obama care a burkian approach to health care or a radical approach to health care? let's start with that? one of the big differences between burke and payne was a difference about what kind of knowledge is available to us in solving social problems. payne thought politics to a certain extent should by a plead to technical knowledge. and that one of the purposes of government was to allow for applied expertise to address social problems. block thought social knowledge could only exist in a form and apply it through institutions that apply broad ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ [ male announcer ] the beautifully practical and practically beautiful cadillac srx. get the best offers of the season now. lease this 2014 srx for around $369 a month . tistfest test test test test test test. with premium care maintenance included. ♪ >> welcome back to "morning joe." with us now is katrina. she is wit
burke and payne, obama, obama care. is obama care a burkian approach to health care or a radical approach to health care? let's start with that? one of the big differences between burke and payne was a difference about what kind of knowledge is available to us in solving social problems. payne thought politics to a certain extent should by a plead to technical knowledge. and that one of the purposes of government was to allow for applied expertise to address social problems. block thought...
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former adviser to obama care said obama care will be viewed as a success even if it doesn't happen until after the president is out of office. >> this program was designed to be implemented by the states and in most of the states it's going quite well. medicaid extension. it's a fact. it may take until 2017 when this president leaves office you'll see almost every state in this country running their own exchanges and expanding medicaid. let's fast forward the state of the union. health care working better. people signing up. no washington shutdowns. i think the president's numbers will recover and people's confidence will recover. >> on "meet the press" chuck todd pointed out an interesting tidbit. >> the team is operating with proift sector velocity and effectiveness. that's an acknowledgement that if this was a government operation for a long time and failed now we're bringing in private-sector folks that's an indictment on the whole idea of government as a solution frankly. >> mark, one of the most interesting things and most disturbing as you look at how the administration handled th
former adviser to obama care said obama care will be viewed as a success even if it doesn't happen until after the president is out of office. >> this program was designed to be implemented by the states and in most of the states it's going quite well. medicaid extension. it's a fact. it may take until 2017 when this president leaves office you'll see almost every state in this country running their own exchanges and expanding medicaid. let's fast forward the state of the union. health...
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not so obama. he can propose what the country want, succeed at it and still get hammered as failure. i'm just he appreciates the comparison to jesse jackson. >> it is a mystery to me why president obama has been drug from every direction over the last two weeks in doing something that if you look at the polls the american people strongly support. "the washington post" abc poll should 79% supported this effort to control syrian chemical weapons as possible posed to launching missile strikes. i do think just looking at the republican party own the prospective republican candidates in 2016 you see senator mccain as eminent and respected as he is somewhat out of step with others in his party in calling for these very hawkish positions. i would love to see a situation in which senator mccain and president obama together could work towards some kind of satisfactory outcome in syria, bring their perspectives together. that's probably too much to dream in today's washington but be nice. >> david, you're su
not so obama. he can propose what the country want, succeed at it and still get hammered as failure. i'm just he appreciates the comparison to jesse jackson. >> it is a mystery to me why president obama has been drug from every direction over the last two weeks in doing something that if you look at the polls the american people strongly support. "the washington post" abc poll should 79% supported this effort to control syrian chemical weapons as possible posed to launching...
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you pick romney or obama. when you pick obama, you want to know the steering wheel that you just turned to the left a little bit, you want that to matter. that means you want that president you voted for to run things. the only power you have as a citizen. pick the person you want to run things and then they run them. for anybody to run around in washington and say we don't run the irs or we can't control the justice department and i'm r recusing myself. they say the steering wheel doesn't control the car any more. the person says i want the person i voted for to be in charge. the only power i have and you're telling me i don't have it? because you don't have it. and that is going to really bug people, especially people that care about government doing a good job. >> yeah. steve rattner and then tina brown. here is what ron is asked in the "national journal." president obama and his team are violating almost every principle of crisis management. while the west wing is run by smart and dedicated public servants
you pick romney or obama. when you pick obama, you want to know the steering wheel that you just turned to the left a little bit, you want that to matter. that means you want that president you voted for to run things. the only power you have as a citizen. pick the person you want to run things and then they run them. for anybody to run around in washington and say we don't run the irs or we can't control the justice department and i'm r recusing myself. they say the steering wheel doesn't...
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obama care, impeach the president. let's do it. >> we need an esteemed historian at this point, somebody who really -- >> wish we had one. >> wish we had somebody who -- >> meacham. >> we can call somebody. we can call somebody. >> come on, jon. the context of this. >> we talk about it now like it's going in our breakfast cereal. it's a big deal. >> it is a big deal. i would love to know the context. he was referring to some question there. so that -- what is that is getting allegedly the president close. is it nsa stuff, what is it? it has become more common since the late 1990s to talk about this. obviously because the country did it, went through it in '98 with president clinton. it's not, you know, impeachment is always a political tool. there's always some political element to it, obviously, because there is no definition of high crimes and misdemeanors. what is that? every generation, every congress, whoever wants to do it can redefine it. it's a kind of crazy armageddon. and i think that it's a sign of a certain
obama care, impeach the president. let's do it. >> we need an esteemed historian at this point, somebody who really -- >> wish we had one. >> wish we had somebody who -- >> meacham. >> we can call somebody. we can call somebody. >> come on, jon. the context of this. >> we talk about it now like it's going in our breakfast cereal. it's a big deal. >> it is a big deal. i would love to know the context. he was referring to some question there. so...
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i think president obama's made that pretty clear. doesn't look like we're going to stay there in any great numbers. maybe 5,000 troops. that's not a lot. that's not a lot to really make a difference. and so, what have we built that can stand on its own? we're going to find out. >> not a lot? >> i think it's a pretty rickety thing. you know, maybe we'll all be surprised and it will sort of hold its own. >> you spent four years in baghdad, you have been in afghanistan much longer than that. by the way, congratulations on your assignment, "the new yorker". >> thank you. thank you. >> in new york. but you've been around combat troops over the past decade, as much or more than anybody outside the military. can our men and women sustain another war against iran, which some people are talking about as a possible, a third war in the decade? >> wow. well, i'll put it this way, who knows if we're going to war with iran, but i think if we, if that came, if war comes, i would be amazed if we put troops on the ground there. i mean, i think we --
i think president obama's made that pretty clear. doesn't look like we're going to stay there in any great numbers. maybe 5,000 troops. that's not a lot. that's not a lot to really make a difference. and so, what have we built that can stand on its own? we're going to find out. >> not a lot? >> i think it's a pretty rickety thing. you know, maybe we'll all be surprised and it will sort of hold its own. >> you spent four years in baghdad, you have been in afghanistan much...
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what's the next step for the conversation about obama care, the implementation of obama care. does it get messier or start to clear up for the white house if they can get past the technical aspect? >> the next test is how many healthy people under the age of 40 sign up. remember, this entire system doesn't work if the young and healthy, the young invincibles don't do this. the actuary tables don't work for the insurance companies. one of the tradeoffs of passing a allow that says health insurance companies couldn't discriminate for pre-existing conditions was part of the deal they were going get a whole bunch of young and healthy people to defray some of the extra costs of insuring sicker people and not being able to discriminate on that front. so that's the next test. and the reason november 30th is so important is if you look at how massachusetts worked, that last month before the insurance kicked in, january 1, so we're talking december 1 through december 15. that 15 day period. that has to be a period that's not just sick people signing up for this insurance. it has to be
what's the next step for the conversation about obama care, the implementation of obama care. does it get messier or start to clear up for the white house if they can get past the technical aspect? >> the next test is how many healthy people under the age of 40 sign up. remember, this entire system doesn't work if the young and healthy, the young invincibles don't do this. the actuary tables don't work for the insurance companies. one of the tradeoffs of passing a allow that says health...
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you got to drop the mike. >> i love that he drops pimping in front of president obama. >> yeah. >> obama handles it. >> he's great in those moments. >> yeah. >> by the way. >> richard haas here to tell us where turkmenistan is. >> right. and then maybe rap. >> there it is. >> coming up next, president of the council on foreign relations richard haas joins the conversation. "morning joe" back with you in just a moment. discover card. i missed a payment. aw, shoot. shoot! this is bad. no! we're good! this is your first time missing a payment. and you've got the it card, so we won't hike up your apr for paying late. that's great! it is great! thank you. at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card with late payment forgiveness. >>> welcome back to "morning joe." katty kay, harold ford jr. and leigh gallagher still with us. joining us the president of the council on foreign relations richard haas, author of "foreign policy begins at home the case for putting america's house in order" and celebrating his tenth anniversary as president -- >> big day for richard haas. ten yea
you got to drop the mike. >> i love that he drops pimping in front of president obama. >> yeah. >> obama handles it. >> he's great in those moments. >> yeah. >> by the way. >> richard haas here to tell us where turkmenistan is. >> right. and then maybe rap. >> there it is. >> coming up next, president of the council on foreign relations richard haas joins the conversation. "morning joe" back with you in just a moment....
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obama and obama's people said from the beginning -- in fact, they said going back two years that the economy could not survive the ending of the bush tax cuts. david axelrod told us that back in 2010. they know that keeping 98% of those tax cuts in place are critical to keep this small recovery going. so republicans that buckled and raised taxes just didn't have the guts to stare down the president and say no, we're not going to do it your way. we're going to do it our way. >> raising taxes on the wealthy has been a huge winning issue for democrats for a long time. republicans did buckle to that. grover is associated with tax increases and the pledge, he also talks a lot about spending. and for conservatives now who want to move on from this pr problem for them, they've got to start talking about spending. >> a disaster. >> they have to say, what do they want to cut? and i think grover and john boehner and other -- paul ryan and other conservatives should now say you know what? we keep saying the problem is spending. that's what they should move on to. they should have the courage of
obama and obama's people said from the beginning -- in fact, they said going back two years that the economy could not survive the ending of the bush tax cuts. david axelrod told us that back in 2010. they know that keeping 98% of those tax cuts in place are critical to keep this small recovery going. so republicans that buckled and raised taxes just didn't have the guts to stare down the president and say no, we're not going to do it your way. we're going to do it our way. >> raising...
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the oversight hearings about obama care. politico is learning that democrats planned to in and democrats are calling for more scrutiny looking for fraud and ways to view incompetence. when you say democrats calling for staff changes, democrats call for an extension of the deadline and mandate. this is to try to separate themselves and say yes, we passed it. yes, it was a good idea. we don't agree with how it's being implemented. >> we report about democrats who say we give the white house the december 1st deadline. that is six days from now. if that day comes and goes and there were problems, that's a good point. >> they are going to wait until after thanksgiving. the white house had been looking forward to thanksgiving conversations. we have even seen here on the show, organizing for america had videos out are urging people to talk to their loved ones and it's turning out the conversations may not be quite what they expected. if coming up here at the end of the week we have with the administration a working website that wil
the oversight hearings about obama care. politico is learning that democrats planned to in and democrats are calling for more scrutiny looking for fraud and ways to view incompetence. when you say democrats calling for staff changes, democrats call for an extension of the deadline and mandate. this is to try to separate themselves and say yes, we passed it. yes, it was a good idea. we don't agree with how it's being implemented. >> we report about democrats who say we give the white house...
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obama doesn't have that. he had the speaking skill way ahead of schedule, the inspiration ability, charisma, he never developed a love of politics, love of politicians, sit around and play cards with them, their nuances, hooks, triggers, buttons, get to know them and figure out how you can work with some of them, even tough customers like eric cantor, boehner, get to know the tea party sentiment. >> and world leaders, chris. >> pardon me? i'm with you on that. >> chris, this is thomas. the hillary perception is reality, is it because when we look on the right we've got cruz, we've got christie and they have a national platform and will for a while. hillary doesn't have that national platform not being in elected office. >> she has a track record now, though. she has a resume which beats the band. that resume of serving with the state department, being first lady, her heroic nature, how she put up with all that and being elected senator of new york. that gutsy move to go up to new york and win and become a ver
obama doesn't have that. he had the speaking skill way ahead of schedule, the inspiration ability, charisma, he never developed a love of politics, love of politicians, sit around and play cards with them, their nuances, hooks, triggers, buttons, get to know them and figure out how you can work with some of them, even tough customers like eric cantor, boehner, get to know the tea party sentiment. >> and world leaders, chris. >> pardon me? i'm with you on that. >> chris, this...
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developed relationships with the obama people. >> all right. mike allen, it is a fascinating story. we will continue, obviously, to be following it for the next four years. and we'll get mark halperin's input on the other side of the break. but also, up next, serena williams is stunned at the australian open, losing to a 19-year-old american. we're going to show you why williams lost her cool ahead in sports. i was overweight my whole life. i obsessed about my weight my whole life. and then, weight watchers. i amazed myself. get used to it. introducing the new weight watchers 360 program. join for free and expect amazing. because it works. to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. now that's a pill worth ta
developed relationships with the obama people. >> all right. mike allen, it is a fascinating story. we will continue, obviously, to be following it for the next four years. and we'll get mark halperin's input on the other side of the break. but also, up next, serena williams is stunned at the australian open, losing to a 19-year-old american. we're going to show you why williams lost her cool ahead in sports. i was overweight my whole life. i obsessed about my weight my whole life. and...
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they pushed us to defund obama care and shut down the government. that was not the strategy that i had in mind, but the day before the government reopened, one of the people at the groups said we never thought it would work. are you kidding me? >> he is doubling down. >> he is. he is taking a victory lap. i talked about it yesterday. if you are one of these groups and can intimidate people, that's great. i'm not talking about on the right, but the special interest groups and it works until the day that you don't intimidate them and it happened yesterday. they are going go home and yell at them and say we will vote you out of office. these groups were just like politicians and parties that overreached. >> the issue of whether it's broken depends on what comes next. do they do real immigration reform. does he have the guts to confront the same group? do we do real tax reform and a plan that the grand bargain? if we do, this was an historic moment for america. if we fall back in -- >>ee seems very free from the grips. >> if we do entitlement reform, ye
they pushed us to defund obama care and shut down the government. that was not the strategy that i had in mind, but the day before the government reopened, one of the people at the groups said we never thought it would work. are you kidding me? >> he is doubling down. >> he is. he is taking a victory lap. i talked about it yesterday. if you are one of these groups and can intimidate people, that's great. i'm not talking about on the right, but the special interest groups and it...
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become the centerpiece for obama's strategy. they are a setting up liaison offices around the world. we know everything about the bin laden raid. we know everything about the dog and guns used. there were 20,000 raids like that that year in afghanistan and other countries that we know almost nothing about. i think our future is going to be looking at cruise missile strikes, covert operations, raids that we probably won't know about an drone strikes are one part of it but i think we make a mistake in focusing too much on drones because this is a full spectrum war that's being waged by the obama administration. >> jeremy scahill, thank you so much. the book is "dirty wars." the film are be out june 7th. >> with a cameo by you guys. >> there you go. >> i can't wait for the royalty check. >> we had to pay nbc for the rights though. >> really! you did, did you? >> yes, we did. willie promised me something but it never came about. >> i talk offline. >>. >>> still ahead, google's executive chairman eric schmidt will be here on the set.
become the centerpiece for obama's strategy. they are a setting up liaison offices around the world. we know everything about the bin laden raid. we know everything about the dog and guns used. there were 20,000 raids like that that year in afghanistan and other countries that we know almost nothing about. i think our future is going to be looking at cruise missile strikes, covert operations, raids that we probably won't know about an drone strikes are one part of it but i think we make a...
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he's not going to sign legislation that repeals obama care. it won't happen until he's out of office. are you content to work within the confines and pass legislation that will change it, but mot wipe it off the map? >> i will tell you that most of us say that it's built on a faulty foundation and it's going to crumble. on a substance level, it will be hard to cancel this out. we argued that it doesn't add up. the math doesn't work. we would like to do this over. obviously in the near term, we want to spare as many people we can from the harmful effects of this law. we will see. maybe there will be movements and cracks among democrats who are recognizing that this is hard to defend with their constituents who are seeing the canceled policies and rate increases. in the end, we would like to go in a different direction. that's the case we would like to take the american people. >> hey, john. always great talking to you. >> joe, i was impressed with you and i saw you running on the warning track. you didn't stop. there were no donut breaks or any
he's not going to sign legislation that repeals obama care. it won't happen until he's out of office. are you content to work within the confines and pass legislation that will change it, but mot wipe it off the map? >> i will tell you that most of us say that it's built on a faulty foundation and it's going to crumble. on a substance level, it will be hard to cancel this out. we argued that it doesn't add up. the math doesn't work. we would like to do this over. obviously in the near...